a_yaja
06-26 03:10 PM
Could you please point out the section where it says dual intent for H1 will be removed ?
You will have to prove that you will come back to your home country after the end of the H1B. Look at page 237 of the new bill. It has the following:
(c) CLARIFYING THE IMMIGRANT INTENT PROVISION.� Subsection (b) of
14 section 214 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1184(b))
15 is amended�
16
17 (1) by striking the parenthetical phrase �(other than a
18 nonimmigrant described in subparagraph (L) or (V) of section
19 101(a)(15), and other than a nonimmigrant described in any
20 provision of section 101(a)(15)(H)(i) except subclause (b1) of
21 such section) " in the first sentence; and
22
23 (2) by striking �under section 101(a)(15)" and inserting in its
24 place �under the immigration laws.".
You will have to prove that you will come back to your home country after the end of the H1B. Look at page 237 of the new bill. It has the following:
(c) CLARIFYING THE IMMIGRANT INTENT PROVISION.� Subsection (b) of
14 section 214 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1184(b))
15 is amended�
16
17 (1) by striking the parenthetical phrase �(other than a
18 nonimmigrant described in subparagraph (L) or (V) of section
19 101(a)(15), and other than a nonimmigrant described in any
20 provision of section 101(a)(15)(H)(i) except subclause (b1) of
21 such section) " in the first sentence; and
22
23 (2) by striking �under section 101(a)(15)" and inserting in its
24 place �under the immigration laws.".
lazycis
01-10 08:26 AM
EB-2, 485 and 140 submitted in June 2007 concurrently, RD and PD both are June 2007. I borrowed my husband's Swiss nationality. Now 140 approved, AP and EAD got, but NC is still pending.
Just curious: When will USCIS process my 485? According to my nationality or my husband's? If it's mine, god, I may have to wait for 4, 5 years because of the terrible VB backlog! Is it after 485, everyone no matter which nationality, the processing time should be the same. All the world line up together. Please correct me if I am wrong.
The bad part of it in your case is that NC is still pending.
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/CISOMB_Annual%20Report_2007.pdf
"As of May 2007, USCIS reported a staggering 329,160 FBI name check cases pending, with approximately 64 percent (211,341) of those cases pending more than 90 days and approximately 32 percent (106,738) pending more than one year. While the percentages of long-pending cases compared to last year are similar, the absolute numbers have increased. There are now 93,358 more cases pending the name check than last year. Perhaps most disturbing, there are 31,144 FBI name check cases pending more than 33 months as compared to 21,570 last year � over a 44 percent increase in the number of cases pending more than 33 months."
So nobody can tell you, when and why, even the USCIS itself. It could be 6-12 months, it could be 2-10 years. I had to take USCIS/FBI to court to help them resolve my NC after waiting about 3 years.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/FBI_name_check
Just curious: When will USCIS process my 485? According to my nationality or my husband's? If it's mine, god, I may have to wait for 4, 5 years because of the terrible VB backlog! Is it after 485, everyone no matter which nationality, the processing time should be the same. All the world line up together. Please correct me if I am wrong.
The bad part of it in your case is that NC is still pending.
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/CISOMB_Annual%20Report_2007.pdf
"As of May 2007, USCIS reported a staggering 329,160 FBI name check cases pending, with approximately 64 percent (211,341) of those cases pending more than 90 days and approximately 32 percent (106,738) pending more than one year. While the percentages of long-pending cases compared to last year are similar, the absolute numbers have increased. There are now 93,358 more cases pending the name check than last year. Perhaps most disturbing, there are 31,144 FBI name check cases pending more than 33 months as compared to 21,570 last year � over a 44 percent increase in the number of cases pending more than 33 months."
So nobody can tell you, when and why, even the USCIS itself. It could be 6-12 months, it could be 2-10 years. I had to take USCIS/FBI to court to help them resolve my NC after waiting about 3 years.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/FBI_name_check
waitforevergc
09-03 06:51 PM
I filed my H1 extension and it took 75 days to get it approved. Regular and not premium.
Got 3 yr extension with approved i-140.
If you do premium, you will know the decision in 15 days.
Got 3 yr extension with approved i-140.
If you do premium, you will know the decision in 15 days.
aka
05-17 07:09 PM
Guys, I received THE magic email also this week. Card Production ordered on May 14th. HUGE Relief!!!
I just wanted to pass on a few tips. These steps may or not have expedited my processing but the timing sure was suspiciously fortuitous:
a) On May 7th, since the NSC I-485 processing date was more than 30 days past my RD, my lawyer sent an official email to NSC asking them for an update on my application. According to my lawyer, CIS is obligated to reply within 45 days and in most cases instead of them saying that this specific application falls outside their processing dates, they just approve the application. Of course, your case has to be approvable (PD has to be current etc)
b) On May 9th, I set up an Infopass appointment where the IO told me that my case was in transit from a different service center back to NSC! She also told me both our NCs were complete.
c) My lawyer was also getting ready to file another round of EAD/AP applications which, according to her, draws CIS's attention to the fact that this application is ready for processing and falling outside the average time range.
Maybe the combination of inquiry email and Infopass helped moved the case or maybe it did not. Probably does not hurt to try at least once and, of course, you don't want to overdo it and burden the system.
Just my $0.02. Hope it helps. Best of luck with your applications. I learned a ton from these forums and (if nothing else) out of sheer habit, will be coming back all the time. Will try my best to help out IV where I can. Cheers!
I just wanted to pass on a few tips. These steps may or not have expedited my processing but the timing sure was suspiciously fortuitous:
a) On May 7th, since the NSC I-485 processing date was more than 30 days past my RD, my lawyer sent an official email to NSC asking them for an update on my application. According to my lawyer, CIS is obligated to reply within 45 days and in most cases instead of them saying that this specific application falls outside their processing dates, they just approve the application. Of course, your case has to be approvable (PD has to be current etc)
b) On May 9th, I set up an Infopass appointment where the IO told me that my case was in transit from a different service center back to NSC! She also told me both our NCs were complete.
c) My lawyer was also getting ready to file another round of EAD/AP applications which, according to her, draws CIS's attention to the fact that this application is ready for processing and falling outside the average time range.
Maybe the combination of inquiry email and Infopass helped moved the case or maybe it did not. Probably does not hurt to try at least once and, of course, you don't want to overdo it and burden the system.
Just my $0.02. Hope it helps. Best of luck with your applications. I learned a ton from these forums and (if nothing else) out of sheer habit, will be coming back all the time. Will try my best to help out IV where I can. Cheers!
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kumarc123
05-22 04:32 PM
Hello All,
In Interesting article/Video posted by Yahoo Finance
Contrary to popular opinion and the view of many politicians, the "brain drain" issue on Wall Street is real, says Dave Kansas, author of "The End of Wall Street as We Know It."
Kansas, a Wall Street Journal contributing editor, notes the concurrent trends of foreign-born workers returning to their home countries and Wall Street's homegrown "risk-takers" joining smaller firms or opening their own boutiques.
In other words, when CEOs like Morgan Stanley's John Mack and Citigroup's Vikram Pandit complain about the risk of losing the "best and brightest" if the government imposes onerous restrictions on compensation, there's validity to their claims, Kansas says.
These trends - compensation restrictions, the rise of boutique firms, more competition from international competitors and big shops becoming more risk-averse - come in the wake of a largely self-made cataclysm that hit Wall Street in the past 18 months.
And Kansas notes it's "early innings" in terms of both the industry's transformation and the new regulatory environment that's certain to come down the D.C. beltwa
ARTICLE CAN BE ACCESSED AT:
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/253392/The-New-Wall-Street-%22Brain-Drain%22-Threat-Legit-as-Boutiques-Foreign-Firms-Rise?tickers=GS,JPM,MS,C,XLF,FAS,DB?sec=topStories&pos=9&asset=&ccode=
MY QUESTION TO YOU ALL
Do you think the govt will do something soon about this? Can we expect a merit based point system in the new CIR? Does anyone has information on merit system in new CIR?
Please advise.
Thank you
In Interesting article/Video posted by Yahoo Finance
Contrary to popular opinion and the view of many politicians, the "brain drain" issue on Wall Street is real, says Dave Kansas, author of "The End of Wall Street as We Know It."
Kansas, a Wall Street Journal contributing editor, notes the concurrent trends of foreign-born workers returning to their home countries and Wall Street's homegrown "risk-takers" joining smaller firms or opening their own boutiques.
In other words, when CEOs like Morgan Stanley's John Mack and Citigroup's Vikram Pandit complain about the risk of losing the "best and brightest" if the government imposes onerous restrictions on compensation, there's validity to their claims, Kansas says.
These trends - compensation restrictions, the rise of boutique firms, more competition from international competitors and big shops becoming more risk-averse - come in the wake of a largely self-made cataclysm that hit Wall Street in the past 18 months.
And Kansas notes it's "early innings" in terms of both the industry's transformation and the new regulatory environment that's certain to come down the D.C. beltwa
ARTICLE CAN BE ACCESSED AT:
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/253392/The-New-Wall-Street-%22Brain-Drain%22-Threat-Legit-as-Boutiques-Foreign-Firms-Rise?tickers=GS,JPM,MS,C,XLF,FAS,DB?sec=topStories&pos=9&asset=&ccode=
MY QUESTION TO YOU ALL
Do you think the govt will do something soon about this? Can we expect a merit based point system in the new CIR? Does anyone has information on merit system in new CIR?
Please advise.
Thank you
mayitbesoon
07-15 12:01 PM
Thank you. We have just applied for 9th year H1 extension. so, requesting I-140 PP based on the current rules is not possible. I-140 is pending at TSC from Nov 2007.
Can anyone tell me if it is helpful to take info pass appointment and enquire about I-485 if I-140 is still pending. priority date is EB2 Dec 2003.
Can anyone tell me if it is helpful to take info pass appointment and enquire about I-485 if I-140 is still pending. priority date is EB2 Dec 2003.
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sieger007
05-27 02:07 AM
Hi krishnam
I too have got I140 Approved already in Sept 05.
My concept was that once I140 is approved you are free. Employer cannot do anything.
After 140 approval can employer do anything to jeopardize the GC Process.
Anyway
2005 140 is approved.
2007 I left employer to work in non US Location. ( No US Income )
Was in good terms with him though.
2008- Re-joined him. and filed 485 in EB2. Its is pending .I got AP and EAD Already
Now I dont know what to do . I was expecting my GC in 1 years time. Now EB2 has retrogressed vey badly. I dont know what do do.
Currently I am back on my Prev. Employers H1 since 2008 . I have EAD and AP in hand. If I leave him and get a full time job ( which is preferred ) implicty invoking AC21 can he mess up my GC ?
Can you throw some light about how this works ?
Basically MY BIG PROBLEM is I might have to fight divorce case in India. So I want to plan something so I DON'T loose my job prospects in US ( I am overqualified for most jobs in my niche - Masters from US , and about 30+ Prof Certifications ) so getting it wont be problematic if laws remains same. If laws change to force shutdown of all H1b contracting , then I have NO Choice but roll over to a FT job invoking AC21.
PLEASE KINDLY ADVISE ME
Thanks
Sam
I too have got I140 Approved already in Sept 05.
My concept was that once I140 is approved you are free. Employer cannot do anything.
After 140 approval can employer do anything to jeopardize the GC Process.
Anyway
2005 140 is approved.
2007 I left employer to work in non US Location. ( No US Income )
Was in good terms with him though.
2008- Re-joined him. and filed 485 in EB2. Its is pending .I got AP and EAD Already
Now I dont know what to do . I was expecting my GC in 1 years time. Now EB2 has retrogressed vey badly. I dont know what do do.
Currently I am back on my Prev. Employers H1 since 2008 . I have EAD and AP in hand. If I leave him and get a full time job ( which is preferred ) implicty invoking AC21 can he mess up my GC ?
Can you throw some light about how this works ?
Basically MY BIG PROBLEM is I might have to fight divorce case in India. So I want to plan something so I DON'T loose my job prospects in US ( I am overqualified for most jobs in my niche - Masters from US , and about 30+ Prof Certifications ) so getting it wont be problematic if laws remains same. If laws change to force shutdown of all H1b contracting , then I have NO Choice but roll over to a FT job invoking AC21.
PLEASE KINDLY ADVISE ME
Thanks
Sam
somegchuh
07-16 02:41 PM
NSC has an interesting way of working. Oct 06 cases are pending and they are approving Dec 06 cases.... never think of predicting what govt is (in)capable of :D
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chenche19
04-01 09:20 PM
Hi, thanks for the response. I will update my profile. I just joined the forum today.
Yes, the reason of the denial is the lack of initial evidence... my MTR addressed those items so I hope the MTR will be approved.
My notice of action on my MTR was received in a week and a half after I submitted my MTR - by the way, I submitted it as a MTR and I got a receipt saying it's a MOTIC.
I did file my I-140 and I-485's (mine's and my wife's) concurrently and my receipt dates is July 13, 2007 -the infamouse visa gate period-. i filed my applications to the Texas Center.
My I-140 was approved on November 08' after an RFE.
adibhatla,
what's your I-485 receipt date?
Yes, the reason of the denial is the lack of initial evidence... my MTR addressed those items so I hope the MTR will be approved.
My notice of action on my MTR was received in a week and a half after I submitted my MTR - by the way, I submitted it as a MTR and I got a receipt saying it's a MOTIC.
I did file my I-140 and I-485's (mine's and my wife's) concurrently and my receipt dates is July 13, 2007 -the infamouse visa gate period-. i filed my applications to the Texas Center.
My I-140 was approved on November 08' after an RFE.
adibhatla,
what's your I-485 receipt date?
setpit_gc
08-13 02:09 PM
What if that company not willing to offer any employment or no longer exists?.
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sunny1000
02-01 09:11 PM
Hi Everyone,
My AP is valid until JUNE 27 2011, (Here is the line from the I-512L, Presentation of the Original Document prior to June 27 2011 allows a customs and border protection inspector at a port-of-entry to parole the named bearer) I'm travelling to India during May / June and will be entering LAX back on June25. Will this be an issue as my AP is expiring in next couple of days.
Experts please let me know your thoughts on my situation whether it is safe to travel and getting in back will not be of an issue.
Thanks if you can help me out
Regards
Karthik
Technically, there should not be an issue. But as the other poster suggested, it may be better to extend it since you are still outside the 120 day window for application.
My AP is valid until JUNE 27 2011, (Here is the line from the I-512L, Presentation of the Original Document prior to June 27 2011 allows a customs and border protection inspector at a port-of-entry to parole the named bearer) I'm travelling to India during May / June and will be entering LAX back on June25. Will this be an issue as my AP is expiring in next couple of days.
Experts please let me know your thoughts on my situation whether it is safe to travel and getting in back will not be of an issue.
Thanks if you can help me out
Regards
Karthik
Technically, there should not be an issue. But as the other poster suggested, it may be better to extend it since you are still outside the 120 day window for application.
anandrajesh
04-07 11:40 PM
I am planning to go on a Hawaii cruise on the Norwegian Cruise line ship (Pride of America) which is registered in the US. My H1-B visa has expired but my I-94 is valid. The Cruise ship only visits islands in Hawaii and embarks/disembarks in Hawaii.
Do I need to worry about my visa stamping or just the Passport with valid I-94 and drivers license should suffice?
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Dont worry about it. Enjoy your cruise trip.
Do I need to worry about my visa stamping or just the Passport with valid I-94 and drivers license should suffice?
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Dont worry about it. Enjoy your cruise trip.
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GlobalCitizen
08-21 03:40 PM
I have the similar situation, worrying about not getting receipt before expiration date. I called USCIS, the lady told me that as long as I filed before the expiration day, I'm okay to work. If someone else could call USCIS, get different people answer this question, and confirm this, that will be helpful.
What number Would I call? 1-800-375-5283 is just messages
What number Would I call? 1-800-375-5283 is just messages
alterego
12-08 04:13 PM
It will not have much impact if any president comes in the case of immigration. Anyhow most of them are not going to Veto. It is the congress who plays important role. President can just initiate the process. Bush tried his best to pass some immigration reform but divided congress defeated all the bills. Who is the reason? Not just anti immigrants but also pro immigrant groups. Expectation from pro immigrants was too much and in some cases impractical. Anti immigrants used those and defeated every time. Also anti immigrants used division in various groups like legal vs illegal, high skilled vs low skilled and H1 vs green card. Some unbiased leader need to bring a bill which should work compromise at the same time that compromise should benefit all the groups. But unfortunately most congressmen are busy in other works. Next congress is critical for any immigration reform
Agreed. However due to the Iraq war. Bush is very unpopular. His conservative base revolted and the republican party did not tow the line and did not support him on this issue, in truth the other side was more helpful than he could have hoped. I agree Bush tried his best, but if he tried in 2001 the result would almost certainly have been different.
A new president comes with a mandate and some fresh political capital. It just depends on what issue he wants to start spending it upon. Given how controversial and virtually radioactive this issue has become, I would not blame the next president if they started with something else. However if things start to go well then he/she could start pushing for this and he/she could provide political cover for congress on this.
Our issue ought to be less controversial but in congress, anything pro-immigration seems to be sneered at right now. Everyone is set on this enforcement first policy and don't want to hear a thing else. It is unfortunate.
All said, we and our issues cannot wait until 2009. We have to push and try to get this done whenever an opportunity come up. Even after 2009 nothing is guaranteed and we might just find that things get worse too, especially if there is an economic downturn.
That is why we need to push hard now.
Agreed. However due to the Iraq war. Bush is very unpopular. His conservative base revolted and the republican party did not tow the line and did not support him on this issue, in truth the other side was more helpful than he could have hoped. I agree Bush tried his best, but if he tried in 2001 the result would almost certainly have been different.
A new president comes with a mandate and some fresh political capital. It just depends on what issue he wants to start spending it upon. Given how controversial and virtually radioactive this issue has become, I would not blame the next president if they started with something else. However if things start to go well then he/she could start pushing for this and he/she could provide political cover for congress on this.
Our issue ought to be less controversial but in congress, anything pro-immigration seems to be sneered at right now. Everyone is set on this enforcement first policy and don't want to hear a thing else. It is unfortunate.
All said, we and our issues cannot wait until 2009. We have to push and try to get this done whenever an opportunity come up. Even after 2009 nothing is guaranteed and we might just find that things get worse too, especially if there is an economic downturn.
That is why we need to push hard now.
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bhavingreat
08-24 09:19 PM
i have been to mumbai consulate.
i suggest u go through VFS Service where they offer you a place to sit and take you to the consulate when its your time for the interview, otherwise you have to wait in queue for long. here is the website for VFS
https://www.vfs-usa.co.in/Home.aspx
this website also has information about the process.
hope this helps.
i suggest u go through VFS Service where they offer you a place to sit and take you to the consulate when its your time for the interview, otherwise you have to wait in queue for long. here is the website for VFS
https://www.vfs-usa.co.in/Home.aspx
this website also has information about the process.
hope this helps.
rajenk
02-11 02:22 PM
Call and ask them how can they do this huge mistake and they will issue one for you as well !
My older son got a cut on his right thumb yesterday and I was putting a bandage on it and my younger one came and said - " I want also a bandage. Why only him ? Why can't I have it ? " Would you pl answer him ?
Do you think you are trying to help me here.... I have posted a real question and would like to get some real answers who had got in such a similar situation.
This isn't funny. Stop your rubbish sarcastic replies, will you....
My older son got a cut on his right thumb yesterday and I was putting a bandage on it and my younger one came and said - " I want also a bandage. Why only him ? Why can't I have it ? " Would you pl answer him ?
Do you think you are trying to help me here.... I have posted a real question and would like to get some real answers who had got in such a similar situation.
This isn't funny. Stop your rubbish sarcastic replies, will you....
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Britsabroad
March 6th, 2004, 08:50 AM
Reminds me of a Nautilus shell cut in half - great shot. Id also be very interested to see what you are able to get with your tripod from different angles
dh010447
03-24 10:11 AM
Lucky you!! Mine was filed on Jan 5th and still waiting!!
I think the labor certification is slowing going back to 2 years approval time including PWD. 3-6 months for PWD and 1 year to 2.5 years for Labor.
My lawyer ('s assistant) told me yesterday that the PWD's are taking 6 to 8 weeks to come back. 8 weeks have past now, didnt really want to force the issue though as it's not just me that's waiting.
i have until July 1012... Hopefully enough time for my PERM approval...
I think the labor certification is slowing going back to 2 years approval time including PWD. 3-6 months for PWD and 1 year to 2.5 years for Labor.
My lawyer ('s assistant) told me yesterday that the PWD's are taking 6 to 8 weeks to come back. 8 weeks have past now, didnt really want to force the issue though as it's not just me that's waiting.
i have until July 1012... Hopefully enough time for my PERM approval...
BECsufferer
02-11 06:44 AM
actually our situation is similar to a bunch of people sitting under a mango tree ..the green mangoes on the tree represent the green card.
those waiting for the mango are standing on a uncertain muddy ground and few will sink in the sand (due to job losses).
we have some robbers (labor substitutions) who climb the tree, steal the mangoes and run away.
the natives (only the anti-immigrants) want to cut down the tree so that no immigrant gets a mango
a majority or us who are waiting patiently are the law abiding ...but we wait for the mango to fall on our head rather than doing something to make the mango fall ..while waiting we fight and discuss silly issues (whether we should buy a house - how to get our maid on visa :)).
some of us while our status was on quick sand - went ahead and built a house thinking that GC would follow
now if only all of us were to come up with an effective plan and shake the tree or throw tons of stones on the tree ..then maybe everyone would get a mango sooner.
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I have one such idea (this does not cost much money) ..let us all go and meet realtors / home brokers etc ..show genuine interest in buying a house but after few days tell the realtor that since GC has been delayed ..u are cancelling your interest in home buying.
those who are homeowners already (with more at stake) ..should contact lawmakers that because of gc delays ...your house is at risk.
WARNING ...before attacking this idea ..come up with a better one
Good one. Just be cautious when we start throwing tones of stones, all those that will miss target will be coming towards us standing on the otherside.:)
those waiting for the mango are standing on a uncertain muddy ground and few will sink in the sand (due to job losses).
we have some robbers (labor substitutions) who climb the tree, steal the mangoes and run away.
the natives (only the anti-immigrants) want to cut down the tree so that no immigrant gets a mango
a majority or us who are waiting patiently are the law abiding ...but we wait for the mango to fall on our head rather than doing something to make the mango fall ..while waiting we fight and discuss silly issues (whether we should buy a house - how to get our maid on visa :)).
some of us while our status was on quick sand - went ahead and built a house thinking that GC would follow
now if only all of us were to come up with an effective plan and shake the tree or throw tons of stones on the tree ..then maybe everyone would get a mango sooner.
------------
I have one such idea (this does not cost much money) ..let us all go and meet realtors / home brokers etc ..show genuine interest in buying a house but after few days tell the realtor that since GC has been delayed ..u are cancelling your interest in home buying.
those who are homeowners already (with more at stake) ..should contact lawmakers that because of gc delays ...your house is at risk.
WARNING ...before attacking this idea ..come up with a better one
Good one. Just be cautious when we start throwing tones of stones, all those that will miss target will be coming towards us standing on the otherside.:)
shreekarthik
07-17 03:04 PM
!!!!. Hopefully you'll be still around encouraging others.
Brightsider
11-08 07:11 PM
Permit me to differ....with ND Bhatt.
With all due respect, I would like to point out that visas to dependents may not be the issue. The report includes all pending I-485 cases. It does not differentiate between principal applicants and derivative-dependents.
The problem must be elsewhere. Possibly, they may not have released complete and accurate figures, though I would hate to believe that. For a governmental agency that is answerable to Congress, it will be difficult for them to obfuscate beyond a point.
You are right on the 245 (i) issue. I do know a friend whose wife and child went to the consulate when their PDs became current. Since it was consular processing, it was not a case of I-485....they use some other form DS1030 or some such form.
That said, hang in there. Enjoy life while in the queue.
Best
With all due respect, I would like to point out that visas to dependents may not be the issue. The report includes all pending I-485 cases. It does not differentiate between principal applicants and derivative-dependents.
The problem must be elsewhere. Possibly, they may not have released complete and accurate figures, though I would hate to believe that. For a governmental agency that is answerable to Congress, it will be difficult for them to obfuscate beyond a point.
You are right on the 245 (i) issue. I do know a friend whose wife and child went to the consulate when their PDs became current. Since it was consular processing, it was not a case of I-485....they use some other form DS1030 or some such form.
That said, hang in there. Enjoy life while in the queue.
Best
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